Android vs Apple.

I have free Iphone from work, sadly that's the only option there is, so I'm stuck with Apple.
I'm not happy with Apple, since I experienced on two occasions that upgrading to the latest firmware ruined some processors on the circuitboard or what ever is inside there.
Apple did not take any responsible for this. The phone was two years and three months old in one case and two and a half year in the other case.
I have bad experience from batteries too, starting to loose capacity just short of two years old.
Since I have a company phone I really can not complain, but I would not buy one for my own money.

Whealie said:

IPhones are made of the same components in the same factories as everyone else. They break as often. The software and apps are safer because of Apple's annoyingly lengthy approval process (for app developers). But the main thing is the customer service - a replacement phone if anything goes wrong and you phone restored from iCloud back-up, in the shop, while you wait. They are prices on the basis that when they go wrong Apple can afford to sort it out. I bought my parents Android phones but if I am honest it was because I could not afford iPhones for them.

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I would definitely question that now!

For the past few year I've been very happy with my Apple ownership. I've had a succession of iPhones (as part of my contract) and a few years ago I was bought an iPad as a Christmas present.

I've always been a bit "gung ho" pressing the update button, and never really experienced any negative issues UNTIL Apple released IOS8, and I just automatically updated my iPad (2). Immediately, the thing ground to a halt, making it totally unusable. It took me too long to read reviews and find that similar people with iPad2's were experiencing the same, and I missed the date when I could have reverted it back to the previous ios7 (as Apple prevent this after they stop "signing" the software),

A couple of updates have occurred since the fateful ios8 update day, and I must say that although the iPad has now improved dramatically, it's performance is nowhere as good as it was with the previous IOS.

I deeply regret updating my iPad, and have purposely not updated my phone, and told the rest of my family to hold off doing so until they've done their research.

Do I suspect Apple of releasing an update to clobber the older iPad's on purpose? YES. Do I suspect they didn't properly test the "update" before releasing it for my device? YES Did I think twice and not renew my iPhone to the latest model last month? YES Will I consider a move to another type of phone/software? Hmmm, still thinking about that one, but I do remember a company called Nokia that once had the mobile phone market all to themselves (almost like Apple) and look where that are nowadays!!!

BobA said:

Do I suspect Apple of releasing an update to clobber the older iPad's on purpose? YES.

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There's that old thing about not assuming malice where incompetence will do.

Besides, they can't really do it right no matter what they do.

Either they release ios8 for the old kit and it'll be slow as progress marches on, or they don't and then the old kit gets left behind and after a shortish while can't run the latest apps anymore. I have a 5 year old 1st gen iPad which is stuck on ios5. After a clean install it runs approximately no app whatsoever that didn't come with ios5. Which ofcourse cheeses me off somewhat as the thing is nearly useless now.

Another option is for Apple to develop an ios8-lite for the old kit, but that would mean lots of extra effort, debugging and complexity, meaning higher cost meaning even more expensive iGadgets. I can see lots of very valid reasons for them not going that route.

So, yeah. Apple is expensive. True. Compared to (for example) the high end Samsung kit it's not even that bad, the big thing is that Apple doesn't do midrange, nevermind cheap, so if you're buying middle of the road Android kit the fruity stuff seems enormously overpriced. They're also being arseholes about storage. No way that a few gig more costs €100 extra to make. But they know people will pay anyway, they've got a captive audience in the Cult Of Apple types, ofcourse they're going to milk it.

For me what it comes down to is I don't trust Android. That is, I trust Google to have made various design decisions in there to facilitate leaking any and all info I put in there to advertisers and app developers. Not that Apple is that much better trust wise, but at least I'm the actual customer there.

As for updates, it's a good idea anywhere to wait at least a week or two for others to report the various pitfalls in new releases. Especially the big-number releases!

Apple uses slave labour http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30540538 Does it make any difference???

nigelphoto said:

Apple uses slave labour http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30540538 Does it make any difference???

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Interesting you should mention this, I also caught sight (possibly in the same article) of 14 people killing themselves being mentioned. I'm pretty sure it was in protest of the poor conditions at the previous Apple factory but I don't remember hearing about it at the time or since (until now)

I guess I may have been on holiday but even then I'm supprised I didn't hear about it with it being such a shocking story.

Does anyone else recall this event in the news at the time?

Ps. That Panorama program with the reporters going undercover in the apple factory was still on iPlayer night before last though I didn't watch it.