Learner....

Just booked my lad Alex in for his CBT next weekend.

Why do I have the feeling this is going to get expensive?

That's besides the £135 for his CBT, if he decides he wants a bike, there's clothing, helmet, gloves, boots, bike, insurance, tax, then I suppose I'll end up fueling it too......

Rob

Nice one,

It'll be worth the expense to be able to ride our with him

Yep, your right. As long as he loses the mardy teenager routine and realises he doesn't know it all.

Not a chance of that mate,

Didn't you know he DOES know it all

On a serious note, I told my boys they couldn't have a bike unless they had a job as they needed the money to put petrol in. It seemed to work as they have both had bikes and jobs ever since. I did of course fill em up every now and then and pay for the odd item but mostly they ran their bikes themselves.

Good news and fingers crossed for him. If he inherits his dad's riding ability he won't be half bad.

XS904 said:

Just booked my lad Alex in for his CBT next weekend.

Why do I have the feeling this is going to get expensive?

That's besides the £135 for his CBT, if he decides he wants a bike, there's clothing, helmet, gloves, boots, bike, insurance, tax, then I suppose I'll end up fueling it too......

Rob

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Hope all goes well.... My son was decked out in some of my old bike clobber including a dinky Akito leather jacket from around 1985, an it fitted him perfectly which looking at his skinny frame, made me rather cross....!! Helmet and bike jeans from Lidl and gloves and other assorted stuff from me or eBay. Boots from Austin and he was up and running...

The 2nd hand 9K CBF125 2 yrs ago was a mistake, pile of shite and might as well have bought a new Chinky steed for similar dosh.

What is going to get expensive is that he has decided now he's 19, and got money to burn from his UOTC Army Reserves training, he will do his bike test. Fluffed his Theory last week which left him flummoxed as he has always scored well on Haz Perception... AHH well, he can earn a bit more dosh and try again after his Uni exams

He seems to be eying up my Honda NX4 for a trip to Ireland though.... Maybe we can avoid the road racing thing As he is a tall lad, a bigger Adv bike will fit him better IMO...

Well, really peed off with the training school. They were told he had never ridden at all before, and he turned up back here at dinner time telling us he had failed.

Quite how you teach someone all the basics and get them on the road in four hours is something I'm going to go and ask them. I used to teach the old part one/two system years ago before CBT came along. We used to do 4 days minimum on part one to get them using the bike right and confidence up before running out don't the road in part two. Pretty disgusted with them to be honest, it seems they only want to know if you can already ride.

I'll be taking him over a mate of mine, he runs a training school but its a good distance away. At least I know he'll get the right training.

Hang on, the road ride alone is meant to be 2 hours isn't it?

I think they need more than just talking to.

XS904 said:

Well, really peed off with the training school. They were told he had never ridden at all before, and he turned up back here at dinner time telling us he had failed.

Quite how you teach someone all the basics and get them on the road in four hours is something I'm going to go and ask them. I used to teach the old part one/two system years ago before CBT came along. We used to do 4 days minimum on part one to get them using the bike right and confidence up before running out don't the road in part two. Pretty disgusted with them to be honest, it seems they only want to know if you can already ride.

I'll be taking him over a mate of mine, he runs a training school but its a good distance away. At least I know he'll get the right training.

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That is all wrong!!

Charlie has done his CBT twice (I made him redo for a 125 with gears!) and each CBT was a FULL days worth of training followed by the actual "test". The 2nd time he still did the manouvreing around the carpark stuff, but then they spend a wee bit more time on the road as both the lads doing the CBT had some experience. He learned a hell of a lot on the 2nd day too... My daughter did her CBT 4 yrs ago and had an 8hr day also...

I think you are quite justified to ask some searching questions indeed if he was home at lunchtime. One for VOSA or DSA too... They charge a lot of money and need to be professional in their approach to trainees

Thanks for the insight Steve, you've pretty much confirmed my thoughts.

I think a visit tomorrow morning is in order.

My son failed similarly. In all honestly it was his "mardy teenager routine" you mentioned. My daughter passed by about 3pm. I put a student through the same course and she took until about 4.30 to pass. The CBT takes as long as it take for the assessor to decide you are safe on the road. My son's attitude showed that wasn't going to happen in a month of Sundays until his attitude changed.


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xs 904,i'm an instructor and the earliest i've finished a cbt is about 2pm,after starting at 8.30. it does depend on the ability of each student,but to have only spent a total of 4 hours from start to finish is criminal.doesn't matter on the attitude of the student,it's down to the instructor to engage the student to keep them listening and carrying out the exercises to the standard required.
if you have a chat with them to question what went on and come away feeling unsatisfied,contact your local DVSA test center and they should be able to give contact details for the area cbt manager.they can then advise you of further steps to take. don't worry,the DVSA won't try and fob you off with excuses,they over see all training schools and the standard of instructing.
hope this is of somne help